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Bob La Londe.
Thinking about changing my setup from 24 to 36 volts but running 3 batteries. Boat has power poles and big graphs. 4 batteries is not an option if I do this because Im not rearranging batteries and changing out the charger. Questions: what batteries are yall doing this with? Im thinking about going to 51-52 inch shaft how far does it stick out compared to 45? What about a charge on the run system
Andy, this thread will answer your questions. As far as the length of the troller, when I had a longer troller on a Puma, when stowed, the head extended a little further into the boat, not allowing me to open the port side locker all of the way. http://www.bbcboards.net/electrical-wir … ttery.html
Yeah I saw that. Was looking for dome other opinions from guys on here that have done it. Thanks for the link
I would call and talk to John at Jones Trolling Motor. I talked to him about it a couple of days ago. If you deside to go with a 3 battery system I would get some back up source to jump your starting battery. A limit of fish and a dead battery could ruin a tornament.
acf cat wrote:I would call and talk to John at Jones Trolling Motor. I talked to him about it a couple of days ago. If you deside to go with a 3 battery system I would get some back up source to jump your starting battery. A limit of fish and a dead battery could ruin a tornament.Heck that could ruin a day!Dan
If you would put your console unite on standby when you start fishing it will make a big difference on the battery.
Andy,I have been running a MotorGuide Tour Edition 36V 109 Digital with a 50 inch shaft for a long time. I started out with it on my Jaguar and now have it on my Pantera 2 and in both boats I only ran three batteries. Currently I have a Humminbird 999 SI at the console and a Lowrance X15 on the front and I dont have any issues fishing all day and not having enough power. The Pantera 3 that Mark and I fished the GAF out of has a MotorGuide Tour Edition 36V 81 lbs trolling motor on it and his boat only has three batteries as well. He has a Humminbird 997 SI at the console and a Humminbird 859 at the front. We ran the aerators the entire day and could have continued to fish for hours longer. We both run AMG batteries and neither of us have ever had any issue only running a three battery system. Mark and I are running Deka Group 27 AMG batteries and havent had any issues. Neither of us have stereos in the boat but we run both graphs the entire time we are on the water. I would say do it if its what you want.Take care,Mike Coffee
Dont know what brand youre thinking of going to, but a MinnKota has a 52″ and a MotorGuide a 50″. Obviously, with the trolling motor in the position where you usually run it, you can measure a straight line from the to of the head of either 5 or 7″ to tell where the head will be when stowed on the new trollingmotor. The charge on the run system works if you do a lot of running. If not, they just top off the batteries giving you the illusion of a fully charged battery, unless the batteries are discharged “much”, then the top off is a recharge. Some myths about AGMs are that they hold the charge longer. An AGM is still discharging while in use. Its discharge curve is more flat than that of a lead/acid. For this reason, you can “feel” a lead/acid going down where an AGM gives little indication until it is discharged, then it is dead. This is also a reason to run the AGM on the outboard. Even though pumps, electronics, anchors are all drawing, it is discharging on a flat curve where it can deliver the power to start the outboard at the end of the day, even though its discharged. The down side of using an AGM on the trollingmotor is the same as the benefit of using on the outboard — you dont know when its going to be dead. Also, usually an AGM doesnt have the RC of the lead/acid counterpart. Im not a fan of the 3 battery system, however I do realize in some cases it is a necessity and as long as you understand the risk, youll be OK. I have installed a solenoid jump system on some Basscats with a 3 battery system that disconnects the series jumper for the trolling motor and parallels two batteries with the push of a button for a “just in case” situation. Let me know if I can help.JohnJones Trolling Motor Services870 773 3474Motorguide/MinnKota/PowerPole/Lowrance/Humminbird
JonesTrollingMotor wrote:Dont know what brand youre thinking of going to, but a MinnKota has a 52″ and a MotorGuide a 50″. Obviously, with the trolling motor in the position where you usually run it, you can measure a straight line from the to of the head of either 5 or 7″ to tell where the head will be when stowed on the new trollingmotor. The charge on the run system works if you do a lot of running. If not, they just top off the batteries giving you the illusion of a fully charged battery, unless the batteries are discharged “much”, then the top off is a recharge. Some myths about AGMs are that they hold the charge longer. An AGM is still discharging while in use. Its discharge curve is more flat than that of a lead/acid. For this reason, you can “feel” a lead/acid going down where an AGM gives little indication until it is discharged, then it is dead. This is also a reason to run the AGM on the outboard. Even though pumps, electronics, anchors are all drawing, it is discharging on a flat curve where it can deliver the power to start the outboard at the end of the day, even though its discharged. The down side of using an AGM on the trollingmotor is the same as the benefit of using on the outboard — you dont know when its going to be dead. Also, usually an AGM doesnt have the RC of the lead/acid counterpart. Im not a fan of the 3 battery system, however I do realize in some cases it is a necessity and as long as you understand the risk, youll be OK. I have installed a solenoid jump system on some Basscats with a 3 battery system that disconnects the series jumper for the trolling motor and parallels two batteries with the push of a button for a “just in case” situation. Let me know if I can help.JohnThanks John Ill probably give you a call this week. Not sure Im gonna do this yet or not still debating
My FTD came with three batteries and a 36V TM. I ran it for years that way, and will going back to that configuration in the next few days. I gad an 80/24 on it the last couple years. Finally got a new 36 to replace the old one last week. I always ran group 30 or group 31 batteries, and fished tournaments. The big key was to get it back on the charger as soon as I got home everyday. I suppose it could be an issue if I was fishing a multi day tournament out of town, but its an issue for anybody if they need all that power everyday, like when fishing a river system. For the last several years I have been using batteries classed as group 29s and have had no issues. Bob La Londehttp://www.cncmolds.com–Bob La Londe Forums, Free Lures, Product Reviewswww.YumaBassMan.com CNC Molds N Stuffwww.CNCMOLDS.com
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