I appreciate that mike. I will see if I can find the holes because it looks like I will need them. After 18 years the carpet in my boat looks pretty rough. Changing out the carpet makes a huge difference. A friend of mine change his out, and I couldnt believe the difference. I am also changing out the seat bases. My seats would wobble with the old bases in there. I have another question mike, on the flooring, did you have any problem with taking the trim out and then riviting it back in. Thanks