2013 P4 Tilt helm pump leaking? 6 inch stain on carpet under console

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May 11, 2013 at 4:46 pm #442294

LB1202
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2013 P4 6 months old. I got home and when putting the boat in garage i saw oil all over the driver seat. I then noticed a 6-8 inch diameter stain on the carpet under the console. When i looked under the console I saw oil all over the helm pump and hoses. Not sure where the leak is because it blew oil everywhere it appears. What would cause this? How do I fix it? and how in the world do you get the stain out of the new carpet? I pulled the boat to get powerpoles installed and had not turned the steering wheel or driven the boat only pulled it there and back. I always use a regular transom toter if that makes a difference. Dealer is a 3-4 hours away. I have read about the shaft seal going bad but would this cause such a large leak in the rear of the helm pump?

May 11, 2013 at 6:34 pm #442295

Bass Cat Boats
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The fittings are set and sealed by Teleflex. We do not turn them. Our suggestion is to look at the leak area and see if there is a Teleflex Service Center in your area. The carpet should need replacing.

May 11, 2013 at 8:38 pm #442296

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Each hose has a fitting that goes into an elbow, and then the elbow connects to the pump. Usually it is the fitting from the hose to the elbow that leaks. After you wipe away the oil from the pump and hoses, if you create some pressure in the steering system, you should be able to see where the leak is occurring. In any case, as BCB suggests, it is best to have a pro do the repair.

May 11, 2013 at 8:56 pm #442297

Bass Cat Boats
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I got under the console again after wiping the pump. It looks like the hose on the left is still wet with red fluid. The hose cover ribs are full of fluid. I undid the hose clamp and pulled the cover back its wet inside the hose cover as well. The brass fitting seemed tight though? I will have to take it in anyway to have it fixed and fluid added and bled I suppose.BCB. How do I go about the carpet replacement? Its all under warranty at 6 months old?

May 11, 2013 at 10:00 pm #442298

Bass Cat Boats
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This needs to be done through either a dealership or Teleflex Service Center, depending on the issue. The most common we see is the connection to the slave pump which is set on an angle. If its the actual hose fitting, then its all ours and a dealership is the answer. DO NOT TURN ANY HOSE CONNECTIONS OR FITTINGS! Lets get it figured out as to what is leaking then we know wo will need to be involved on your warranty. BCB

May 12, 2013 at 8:27 pm #442299

LB1202
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I will take it in but it will take a couple weeks unfortunately. I have turned the motor back and forth many times but see no more leaks. I know it leaks due to the fluid on carpet,seat, and pump. I wonder if the motor tilted up while trailering caused more pressure? Additionally this happened while trailering only. The boat wasnt used for a week before pulling it to get the powerpoles installed. I also can see the fluid level in the clear hose from under the console. Its about an inch below the fill cap currently. I can also move the motor about a half inch by hand by grabbing it and pushing left and right. Is this supposed to happen or no? Im taking it to a dealer but Im just trying to learn more.

May 12, 2013 at 8:55 pm #442300

Bass Cat Boats
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This seems odd doesnt it? Did they pull motor off to do the brackets for the poles? Have you ever used the boat- I get that impression? Although you say its 6 months old also. I would get someone to turn the wheel while your upside down looking under there or you turn it and watch.C.O.D. Jr. III

May 12, 2013 at 9:54 pm #442301

Bass Cat Boats
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You may not notice it under static pressure, though only under operation as pressures are greater then. We are puzzled that there is fluid in the fill hose and you have that much of a leak?

May 12, 2013 at 10:41 pm #442302

LB1202
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Yes I have used the boat some. Motor has about 8 hours in it. I wash a wipe boat after each use so I know it wasnt there after I used it last week. It stayed in the garage until I pulled it 3 hours it sat for 24 getting poles installed then 3 hour trip home. I noticed the red fluid on seat first when u out it in garage and wiping it down. Then saw round wet spot in carpet and looked under console and saw fluid on pump. There may be a little more than an inch gone but its not like its half missing from the fill tube either. I understand about more pressure on system from running motor which has me curious how it started just while towing. I use the standard moter toter that runs to the trailer. Of course while towing you get the moter jiggle when you hit a rough spot but no more than usual with my previous cats. This is the first steering problem I have had through 7 years and 4 basscat all with the same steering.

May 12, 2013 at 10:52 pm #442303

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Ward, it was the powerpole brackets that mount on side of jack plate so they didnt have to remove the motor.
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