Thanks BCB, I did not go to the Expo. I just want to see the boats on the water and on display. Seeing them in person gave me a good idaa of all the boats. I got to ride in a Cougar with a 250 pro sx. I can say that it is a very differen boat than my Sabre FTD. Even though my FTD has all the bells as the Cougar, big difference in a 20 foot boat. You can alway dream. I did not see Tommy of Rockwall Marine. They said he was downtown. Would have liked to say Hi but that did not work out. Is there anybody out there that is using a Raymarine Drigonfly 7 pro, Like or not? I dont know who it was that had all the waitresses at Wolfies wear Bass Cat Tees but that person need a salary increase. John