I wish I knew the secrets!! What I do know is that Erie can get UGLY, Chautaquat can only get ugly…. As the only BassCat owner in the STBM adult club (Les Blue is almost there. though, hope he doesnt fall into the N, R. or bug brand….) I ask that you give me the location of the big bag on Silver! Chautauqua isnt until the 15th so I have some time to pry that info out of you! Bill