Need a little help please

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August 10, 2009 at 12:30 am #376750

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Just getting back into fishing after a little lay off. I bought a 2005 Classic. It came with a couple of X51 LCRs. I up graded the front to a LCX17 that I had taken off my previous Basscat before I sold it. I ordered a HDS5 for the console. I wired the LCX17 to the wires on the bow that the X51 was wired into (instead of wiring it into the battery direct). Went fishing last weekend and everything worked great. Then my HDS came last week so I decided I would wire it into the wires under the console that the other X51 was wired into. Well when I did that the HDS wouldnt work unless the navigation lights were on so, I pulled some wires back to the battery and hooked the HDS up direct. Well I had a tournament today and all of a sudden my LCX17 would not work unless my naigation lights (at the console) were on and it worked fine last weekend without the navigation lights on. I also notice that my bow switch for my navigation lights will not turn the lights on. I getting power to my bow switch but only when the navigation light are on at the console. This wasnt rocket science. Two wires at the console and two wires at the bow. I was thinking that maybe I burned out the bow light switch but, when I turn the navigation light switch on at the console bow sides of the switch are getting juice. Any ideas? Thanks Glenn

August 10, 2009 at 12:56 am #376753

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Somehow you have pulled a wire off we suspect and replaced it on the wrong pin. Otherwise we are shooting in the wind. The running lights are on separate wiring and should not be interrelated. Though somehow you have.

August 10, 2009 at 2:36 am #376756

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Im confused also. At the bow there are a red and a black wire that are jumped off the navigation light switch. The X51 positive and negative was wire into the them. All I did was cut the wires that went to the X51 and hook them up to the power cord of the LCX17. At the console there were 2 pink wires hooked together with a butt connector at one end of the butt connector and the red power of the X51 at the console was hooked up to the other end of the butt connector. All I did was cut the butt connector out and connect the red power wire from HDS to the same two pink wires that the X51 in the dash was hooked up two, same with the ground wire. It appeared to be a fairly simply install. All the wires on the bow navigation light switch are on the spade terminals none came off during the wiring of the bow unit. Could something under console be causing the problem. The pink wires appear to be for the lights but, that is the wire that the X51 was wired into. Thanks, BCBLast edited by mocatt on August 10th, 2009, 2:38 am, edited 1 time in total.

August 10, 2009 at 4:15 am #376758

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mocatt, Where are you located at? BCB

August 10, 2009 at 4:35 pm #376762

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Columbia, MO.

August 10, 2009 at 5:00 pm #376764

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This also sounds like a loose wire / bad connection to me. That is the usual cause for a problem that goes away when a completely unrelated switch is enabled. That Nav light switch could suddenly provide a better ground, or a better +12v because of a connection problem elsewhere. Simple test is to leave the light off and see what kind of voltage you are seeing at the LCD. You can then try the old wild guess approach and run a wire from the battery negative post to the LCD and see if it works normally. If so, your ground circuit is defective and needs repair. Else, remove that wire and swap it over to the + battery post and connect to the + connector at the LCD. If it works now, you have a defect in the +12v circuit. This happens in most everything on occasion. we see it in the cars my son works on pretty commonly, with the most common fault right at the battery post or distribution panel connections.2008 Pantera Classic2014 Mercury Pro XS 200

August 10, 2009 at 5:09 pm #376767

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If you cant figure it out, we would be glad to help since your only a few hours away. There has to be more to it than it just happening. Someone must have altered something at some time. BCB

August 10, 2009 at 7:49 pm #376770

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Yea I know what you mean Oldtimer. Ive been in the Diesel truck industry for almost 30 years ( but not as a tech) and sometimes things just happen.This boat was bought new by the guy I bought it from down at the LOZ and it only had 37 hours on it when I bought it a couple of months ago and looks brand new. Ill take Oldtimers advice and check some things out and if I cant figure it out Ill bring it down and get yall to take a look at it. As always THANKS and its great to be back in the family again. Glenn
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