P4 or Cougar FTD

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March 29, 2010 at 5:02 pm #270984

Daddy Rabbitt
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Considering price and performance, which one would you buy?

March 29, 2010 at 5:20 pm #270985

Dan the Man
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The P4 is laid out just like the Puma, If I could afford it and wanted the speed and size of a 20 footer that is what I would buy. If a 19 foot boat fits your needs and your budget better, I dont think you can buy a better 19 footer than a P4. Either way, you “pays your money and you takes your choice.”

March 29, 2010 at 6:03 pm #270986

SenkoSeis
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I had the same situation as you, though I was trying to choose between a PII or Cougar FTD. For me, the PII would have been plenty of boat, but I happen to find a 6 month old Cougar FTD for a bit more in price then a brand new PII out the door price. I dont know if you are buying new or looking for a used one? NO regrets on the Couagar, what a fishing machine! The more I read about the PIV, the more I think that I should have looked into the boat some more! There are NOT very many around and used ones are hard to find, good luck! There is a big price difference between the 19 footers and 20 footers due to engines!

March 29, 2010 at 7:16 pm #270987

mike dominick
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Find the Nov/Dec 09 issue of BassWestUSA magazine and read Marty Stones article “Ego Free Boat Buying”, it helped me make my decision and evaluate what I needed. ( I bought a PIV) Mike

March 29, 2010 at 10:27 pm #270988

mike dominick
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Brannon, I really dont believe the rear storage is wasted on the PIV, my Jag has the under seat storage and under seat cooler, the PIV has the rear storage that is much larger than what you can throw under the seats. I guarantee that if you have a TX coangler with you he will like the rear storage in the PIV. I love my 02 Jag and love my new PIV, but they are different and both have their strong points. Im fishing a divisional tournament in Az in May, I flew down last week and went out on the water, the shorter boat is going to be an advantage down there. Mike

March 30, 2010 at 12:49 am #270989

DKees
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Answering your question on price and performance……the PIV is less expensive for sure and you wont get passed on a run or worry too bad in large rollers. Its a 70 mph boat tournament loaded and if you carry more stuff than fits in the PIV, you have too much stuff. I thought I would have the wants for a larger boat after going to the PIV but if I buy one tomorrow itll be another PIV. Plenty fast, plenty big, very stable and awesome in big rough water.

March 30, 2010 at 1:38 am #270990

Flyswatter
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Bama96 fished out of a PumaFTD and PIV during a season of tournament trail fishing and he flat out feels for the performance and cost saving value of the PIV warrants serious consideration.Hopefully hell comment.

March 30, 2010 at 2:01 am #270991

Bama96
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Yep the PIV is a 19 boat that fishes like a 20. I know I have fished out of both. There really is not that much difference in the forward decks. The step up on the Puma is larger. The PIV is a heck of a ride and I think the Puma is over kill for the average tournament angler. Of course the Puma is the ultimate rig but if you dont need to go 80 it would be hard to beat the PIV.

March 30, 2010 at 3:31 am #270992

PhilAddison
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What is an average tournament angler? If $6800 was the only difference between a P4/200 and Puma/250 then I would get the Puma every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Theres that much difference in them in my opinion. Though, he is talking about a Cougar FTD and the price will be a little more with the FTD models. And yes, $6800 is a serious amount of money, but usually if one can afford to spend $45K on a boat theyre likely able to afford $50!Last edited by PhilAddison on March 30th, 2010, 3:34 am, edited 1 time in total.

March 30, 2010 at 4:05 am #270993

Flyswatter
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PhilAddison wrote: but usually if one can afford to spend $45K on a boat theyre likely able to afford $50!That is a lot of coin to trivialize $5,000-$6,800 differing price points and boats. Its like saying if you can afford a puma FTD what the heck you should be able to get a Jaguar. That amount of coin strongly keeps me from moving up. There are stopping points. Also, I think the price difference between these boats in my area is much wider then these numbers too. However, I think the PUMA is worth every penny. DR do your home work and keep asking questions. You have already read differing views and there are no right or wrong answers. Only you can justify the price differences per your purchasing decisions. If you get either you wont regret it. To put things in perspective. I had breakfast with Elite Pro Dave Wolack several months back and we had a similar discussion. I am paraphrasing. During our discussion he won I think 7 boats fishing tournament trails out of a 18 bassboat before he became an Elite Pro on the BassMaster series. Pick your poison and go fill the livewells. As long as you are in a BassCat your fishing experience will be better for it. Last edited by Flyswatter on March 30th, 2010, 3:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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