Pantera IV HP Rating

http://basscatowners.yuku.com/topic/11402. A lengthy post but it does offer some insight in a small area of the post on rationale for the P IV. The hp rating has been discussed for years on the P IV. Dont think for a second that Rick or the gang hasnt hung a 225 on one just to see any performance gain, if any. It wont ever get a 225 rating in its present form.Thus the resurrection of the Eyra, that can handle 200-250hp engines. With a 200 you can see mid 70s performance on a 20 foot platform.The P IV is the biggest 19 foot in the Pantera class and has a niche following.The price point for that size boat would be a topic. Extra money for 25 hp, or invest that $1k + on upgraded electronics.The Pantera Classic is the go fast hot rod of the group, followed by the P II, which is no slouch and a nice tournament rig for mid size bodies of water.Im running a used 96 Eyra that I love…….but would have no problem upgrading to a P IV/200. A garage fit with big boat comfort.Last edited by jignpig on November 4th, 2010, 10:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.96 Eyra/12 Mercury 175 Pro XS with 2015 single axle trailer2017 Victory Gunner

The P4 has plenty on the pad with the 200hp. I spend 95% of my day off the pad and that is when you cannot tell the difference in the P4 and the larger rigs. I have everything they have as far as deck space and plenty of room for all the tackle me and my partner need for a day on the water. Unless you need to run a long distance at a very fast speed for a long time the P4 will fill the majority of any fishermans need in large lakes or skinney water. You will not believe how the P4 can move around docks and cypress trees. I fish a lot of rivers with laydowns and the boat will move me in and out of small tight pockets without a second thought. I have been in the R boat that is rated for the 225hp. That boat needs the 225hp to perform at the same level the P4 will with the 200hp. The biggest difference I felt was the smooth ride that the P4 had over the R boat in the same size class. Ride in both before your decide on what you want. But most of all, spend time fishing all day under different conditions in the enviorment that you will fish in.

Not trying to be in depth again, though this one is popping up a couple of times lately. Actually a 225 Pro XS and a 200 Pro XS are quite significant in costs, and the percentage of engine sales for a 225 are considerably less than a 200 now. They were strong when the only direct injection retail engines were a 225 Pro XS and a 225 HO Evinrude. Now you have the 250 and the volume of 225 engines in the big block category of 200 – 250 is very (extremely low percentage) minimal. This raises the price tag of the boat rig raises at retail from $3,000 to $3500, to go from a 200 Pro XS to a 225 Pro XS, and there is little diffence between a 225 and 250 in those engines. Thus the lower volume in the engine makes it unsuitable. Yamaha miscalculated volumes on the 225/250 ratio when they introduced the SHO to the USA. They now understand the engine prices are not the deciding factor, as the 200 SHO excessive, though the step between 200, 225 and 250 are incremental and acceptable. The link will help some, though the 225 engine was the choice and some brands of boats were made around that engine size. We never did that staying focused on the future development of a 250 engine as the pricing was not to be significantly more above a 225. Those volumes were acceptable on those models when they only had DI 225 engines, though now we see them sitting on dealer floors with a long turnover time. Thus again supporting the decision. We can get into this more, though we were thought to be wrong several times in product meetings on volumes and we were in product meetings with manufacturers of those engine who were trying to determine demand on the products. After those meetings they know were were accurate on our projected volumes of 250 EFI (Pro XB) demand vs. 225 EFI, 250 XS demand stand alone, 225 Pro XS demand vs. 225 Opti, and demand of a 175 Pro XS on the volumes. In nearly all of these categories we were able to hit the demand ratio in our projections on the head, though it was significantly different than our competitors were informing those volumes would be. Reality is what the retail demand is on products, and not our hopes. In those cases above and more we were spot on. The market of 225 engines is a speck in comparison and we are not leaning to address it or raise the price of a Pantera IV to where people just decide to go ahead and get the 20 model. Yamaha is already a high price tag on the SHO in 200 and that is another factor. Though it is only a factor the last 8 months and stands alone in that issue, though even with the closeness of a 200 and 225 SHO in price, the 225 is dead in the volumes by comparison. This is why the Eyra is progressively and sequentially priced from a 200 to 225, and a 250. We tried to address this with a different direction. This model alone gives you the ability to price it with engines as you see fit and make it a better value and that was another part of the Eyras mission. We hope this helps again on the 225 rating issue. BCBLast edited by Bass Cat Boats on July 10th, 2011, 6:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.

No, it was built and designed as big as it could be and not bump to a 225 rating on purpose. It is just barely shy of a 225 rating level.