fishntrox, go to the front of the stadium tail gate party and look for tent in front of a Cadillac Escalade (Black) with a dark haired lady and an older (O = figure out O) balding (shiny) guy with glasses, and tell Jeff and Nancy Hall that someone from the BCB forum told you to look them up. They will be tailgating about four spaces or five right of the middle of the complex on the front row, as they have for years. BCB