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I picked up a new unit while at the classic ordered a bracket to mount to the jack plate, now need to figure out how critical “level to the water is”so how important for SI and Di to be level with the water.do I need to run to the lake and mark the water line on the plate?Treat everyday like it might be the last
puck is for sonar , the one on the jack plate is di and si and temp. there is a y cable that keeps the outside one from sending sonar. the di , si has sonar when plugged straight to the unit.
What mark said
Typically while you are running on plane, you will only get signal from the thru hull transducer.
This going to show how dumb I am on this stuff but if you dont ask you never learn. How is sonar different than DI??
Sonar is 2D and can read at faster speeds. DI is 3D and you will lose signal while on plane. AndyGreene Boat & MotorAndy Greene Greene Boat & Motor 828-286-2290 http://www.greeneboats.com
An 898 SI does not have DI capabilities. Down imaging is more like a Kodachrome picture and will actually show images in black background with shad, fish and trees being white. Just like side imaging only a down shot.
mark thompson wrote:puck is for sonar , the one on the jack plate is di and si and temp. there is a y cable that keeps the outside one from sending sonar. the di , si has sonar when plugged straight to the unit.I only have the side imaging/DI transducer for my Humminbird 1198, I do not have a thru hull transducer for on-plane readings. I want to add the other transducer though. I was thinking there is an A/B switch that had to be used with the “Y” cable and this switch allowed you to select which transducer you are using at any given time. Am I wrong? Is all I need the “Y” cable and the thru hull transducer?Jim EbarbMany, LA (Toledo Bend Lake)2004 Cougar/ 225 OptimaxHumminbird Helix 12 Chirp SI on BalzOut Mount at bowLowrance HDS 7 at bowHumminbird Helix 12 Mega SI on Ram Mount at ConsoleLowrance HDS 8 in dash at console
toledobasser wrote:mark thompson wrote:puck is for sonar , the one on the jack plate is di and si and temp. there is a y cable that keeps the outside one from sending sonar. the di , si has sonar when plugged straight to the unit.I only have the side imaging/DI transducer for my Humminbird 1198, I do not have a thru hull transducer for on-plane readings. I want to add the other transducer though. I was thinking there is an A/B switch that had to be used with the “Y” cable and this switch allowed you to select which transducer you are using at any given time. Am I wrong? Is all I need the “Y” cable and the thru hull transducer?You do not need a switch. As Mark wrote, The y adapter contains wiring that will block the 2d from the di/si transducer and pick up the 2d from the shoot through automatically
The hummingbird side-imaging units do have down-imaging (at least mine do, I’ve had a 598 a 798 and an 898) but they use the side-imaging crystals for it, they don’t have a dedicated down-imaging crystal—it’s basically a down-view of the side-imaging sonar readout. At any rate, the side-imaging ducer is an expensive object that collects weeds and slows your boat down, adds holes to your hull, etc, so most people I know mount it above the step on the transom by attaching it to the jackplate—this protects it, allows it to give good side-imaging readout at low speeds(which is the only speed it works anyway, more or less when idling)—but the whole transducer is out of the water when the boat is on plane. Even if you were to attach to the hull low enough for the ducer to stay in the water when on plane, the water is turbulent-enough there that you often don’t get a good readout at speed or you disrupt the water going to the prop, etc. The transducer in the bilge sits right over the smoothest water and gives a better 2d sonar view at higher speeds and it’s protected inside the bilge where it wont hit anything or collect weeds. There are something like 4 or 5 pin connections on the transducer cable for one of these units—one is for 2d sonar, one is for temp, one is for the left-side side image, one for the right-side side-image, etc. the “y-cable” basically is a splitter so the 2d signal goes to the puck in the bilge, while the side-imaging, temp, etc goes to the side imaging ducer on the jackplate—essentially you have 2 transducers but the unit “thinks” it only has one transducer, so there is no need to toggle back and forth—they function as one transducer as far the head-unit on the transducer is concerned.
We like the SI transducer pointed just a little ahead of the position and not level. The DI also can improve forward position by canting it a few degrees.
It depends on how concerned you are about the absolute greatest accuracy. There was very recently a discussion on this angle over on BBC. The people at TSS say that the offset angle that is already on the TSS will be fairly accurate for most boats. I wonder about that myself. The vid in this thread is excellent, but does the mount without a TSS, so is adjustable. Once a TSS is mounted, you do not have the option of adjustability, so it should be right the first time. http://www.bbcboards.net/showthread.php?t=688319
There is no way for Transducer Shield and Saver (TSS) to know the angle of all hulls when idling for side scan. Estimate yes, accurate… No. The angle suggested by most in design and tech circles of the manufacturers (Humminbird, Lowrance, Raymarine) is mentioned as slightly forward of the position, or pointed just a little ahead of mounting position. They do not give an accurate angle in our experience and they know it varies on all varied brands and models.
Thanks to all for the infoOne more quick question, since I am mounting to the side of the Jack plate should I drill 90 percent through and tap the holes or all the way and thru bolt with lock nuts?Treat everyday like it might be the last
Tapping the plate at the max depth is suggested, or all the way through if possible. The taps are extremely hard to run and easy to break when tapping, go VERY slow with lots of oil or lube as the tap will stick in the aluminum and one last fraction of a turn when it tightens and POP!
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