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Maybe i rember reading this. Maybe i forget. Someone refresh my memory! Wat was the reason for going to the smaller jackplate? Strength for the extra torque?
that’s relative to the Evinrude G2 and Verado style engines which have offset built into the engines.
So……… the one’s that are repowering on a BCB to a v8 does it hurt anything staying with the oringinal jackplate? Performance, stress on the transom, etc. ?
Or is it fine to use existing plate. Or HIGHLY reccomended to use the smaller plate. If so why?
6” to 8” plates are fine in the older hulls and V8 engines.
People think more offset is better, though in some cases water is dirtier and thus short plates are closer to the hull and closer to clean unfrothed water. The more air in the water your prop uses, the less bite.
So Wat does BCB consider “older hulls”?
So…. let me put this another way. My buddy has a 14 puma he repowered awhile back. He loves the motor. The torque the mid range. His previous 2 stoke was wat i would call a “hot” motor. With this new 4 stroke he says he has lost top end speed. He is wat i call way better than average at handling a BCB. Yesterday was the first time i had got to see the “beast”. He is running a 24 fury. He has a atlas plate and has played with engine heights considerably. Only thing i noticed was it having the larger plate. So yea im fishing for info.!
You’re chasing a ghost until you’ve developed more time in the engine and more seat time, propellers to play with, engine height and more. The torque in the V8 is totally different and there is much more to this than a bolt up and roll on going forwards.
I just started driving/flying my 2013 Cougar re-engined with a 300R and Bob’s /Basscat hydraulic Jack Plate. I only have 7 hours with the setup I am an old pilot been driving and flying machines for a lifetime and learned cause and affect a long time ago. So far I am very impress with my engine and boat , the Mercury folks are real smart. and drive my cat well. Prop selection has been my current challenge 2nd time out I drop my foot down in seconds I looked down I was going 79.7 light chop 5900 rpm’s plate gauge set 2 on dot (figured it would be good place to start in the middle never had plate like this before. Wow no chime walk smooth, “let go of steering wheel feel” Blew my mind and scared me because neither the boat nor the engine where stressed I started doing the math in my minds eye and the theory of to end speed is scary.
. almost cried. Same prop as XS250 with fixed jack p[late (Fury 4 25) did 73 with high weight inside on 300R did ~77 (no tuning, Jack plate to tilt)
Tourney last weekend – Lake Shasta higher altitude full gear (I pack everything full load limited time to pre fish) Bitch of time making pad no matter where jack plate was set ,lost time in event, had to have my partner jump on the deck had to get on pad “not as pretty sight” note “blast off had full fuel 52 Gallons and live wells full and running. Hole shot is most important to me I prefer run and gun with short runs once in my areas which is my style. I am happy running mid 70’s ordered new Fury 4 24 today from BoatMasters stay tune.
I believe good engineers learn from their mistakes , and great engineers learn form the mistake of others.
Happy to share. Glad be alive and see a four stoke V8’s on may BassCat! Love to hear from others.
Thanks Boatmasters, BassCat and Mercury!
BassTramp

Hydraulic plates became popular with the 2 stroke Mercury with boat gaining equipment and weight, as they have less torque. Power Poles, especially Talons, dual graphs, larger trolling motors and carrying more tackle impact hole shot. The ability to lift the engine improve propeller venting and reduces hole shot times. Then in some cases it allows use of the propeller which minimizes top end performance.
It allows quick maximization of performance, ability to adjust the ride on rough water and can give the user a positive experience. That is If the user understands how to use it properly.
Caution, as hydraulic plates also can make a driver worse as most everyone we know runs their plates too high, with a hot foot this creates a challenge and can be a serious handling issue when the user backs off instantly in rough water, approaching wakes and etc. They increase bow steer as they instantly drop the nose when approaching, instinctively removing the foot from the accelerator as in a car, this allows the bow to drop.
When the bow drops under fast deceleration, the skeg is the Rudder and it is now removed more from contact at the higher engine heights. The rudder is the skeg and dropping the bow first can pull the Gearcase up around 3 to 6 inches, when you most need it for control.
It is imperative that a user always trim down first when approaching a wake or vessel, thus increasing the skegs water contact and gaining critical control. Trim and lower the plate, then reduce throttle speeds.
Almost every user of a hydraulic plate raises them to excess heights and as a result they have increased steering torque caused by surfacing propeller blade. Varying hulls and overall weights, vary the degree of impact that engine height has on control at all levels when the engine is over raised.
A SIMPLE way to know if your engine is TOO HIGH is the steering feedback pulling excessively to the right. If that is the case when your running top end, then your engine is likely too high. This is the indicator on most all hulls that your slipping and not efficient also. Various propellers also change the slippage and thus the engine heights must be reset to match your propellers connection and efficiency.
A hydraulic jack plate can make setup and performance much better, though it also can make an untrained driver a recipe for disaster. They also increase service cost down line as things will break from pumps to wiring and senders. Further, a HEIGHT GAUGE is critical for gaining an understanding of control. We ONLY sell plates with gauges on our products. In opposition most do not sell them with gauges and everyone should have a gauge or a setting control limiting system (ProTap) for increased understanding of settings. It is more critical by far than a trim gauge.
We sell a significant percentage of our products with hydraulic plates today and we have for almost 20 years. The ratio has definitely increased and with all of the four stroke motors and torque today many no longer have the need for them. It’s a personal preference and we are well over 50% on Premium series lineup, probably more like 75-80% on big boats over 225 HP.
If you fish mostly one area, many have no need for one.
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