Thanks guys… This site is awesome. I pulled both pumps out; both full of greasy oil gunk. Will order two pumps in the morning from BCB. The hoses were the devil to got off. I figured after I split them to cut them off, Id just go ahead and replace them too, but looks like theyll be staying. Almost impossible to get to the clamps at the back unless Id take the tank out, and I aint going that far… At this time anyway. Will look at the wiring tomorrow. One of the pumps didnt even have but one wire connected to it…. Geeesh. see no float switch scuba, but Ill keep looking.and I agree Phil, but right now Im just fixing all the stuff thats either broken or not working. Theres a whole lot of wires hanging thats just not plugged in to anything, so Im gonna have my hands full tracing all this crap around to see where it goes or where it went. Previous owner stripped all the lights out of the compartments, so maybe some of these loose wires has to do with that…. Who knows, but Im learning as I go.