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I will admit i enjoy keeping my fish alive. I do believe in “catch and release” and preserving our water and fish. But around my house more often than not its about “catch and grease”. So much emphasis put on this oxygen system when wat we need to worry about is the silver carp invasion. These is wat going to eat the eggs of our future fish and destroy our future of fishing not the few lost in tournament fishing. These invasive species will completly destroy any kind of hope we have for future fishing and feeding our familys when needed. So imho i say put your emphasis on these silver carp not the whether were buying a oxygen system. When in all all honesty the Bcb livewell is more than adequate.
Well said Redngoo, we are dealing with invasive species around here as well and the most intrusive one for us is giant salvania. With that said most fishermen I know are EXTREMELY interested in fish conservation. I know I am. As a tournament fisherman I would not keep any bass because I hope to catch the same fish that I have found in practice later in the tournament. If you catch and grease them you wont have them for the tournament and if you kill them in a tournament then you get the same result. The issue to me is the way you present the subject. It feels like you are trolling for a reaction (which you have received) or that you have a hidden agenda. Truth be told most people probably dont know much about the oxygen system…I know I dont. In my experience the livewells in all of my Cats have done a tremendous job of keeping all my fish alive so I have no reason to seek additional help. But, Last edited by texlacat on January 16th, 2018, 8:29 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Hit the wrong button….as more teaching of how this technology affects fish survival comes out maybe it will incentivize people to add them to their boat purchases. The bottom line is your “presentation” is what has ruffled feathers. If you have a true interest in enhancing fish survival then great but maybe you could present it a little differently.
Yea, Im gonna wave the white flag. This is like verbally sparring with the wife, a regular “pissin match”, cant win that one either. The point I was making BCB is one of the only companies investing in the good of this business. They have a great livewell system, keeps my fish swimmin. Agg271, pick up a new hobby dude, sounds like fishing might not be your gig. Leave it to the fish muderers.
SteveD wrote:Yea, Im gonna wave the white flag. This is like verbally sparring with the wife, a regular “pissin match”, cant win that one either. The point I was making BCB is one of the only companies investing in the good of this business. They have a great livewell system, keeps my fish swimmin. Agg271, pick up a new hobby dude, sounds like fishing might not be your gig. Leave it to the fish muderers. I can imagine hearing/seeing your white flag fluttering the breeze Steve. It takes a meek,humble man that will fess-up, admitting he cannot compete with the wife to the world on the internet! Thats a special man.Bass fisherman animosity toward the BCB TT O2 rig and 21st century livewell O2 technology is palpable here. I see a clear sales challenge for the BCB marketing team for 2018 right here in real time typed on the BCB forum. Steve, my gut feeling is that you are probably right after seeing the dismal sales of 2017, the TT O2 rig break out year of poor sales about waving your white flag… throwing in in the towel, discontinuing products that fail to sell, meaning products that might work well but, are not sellable to bass fishermen. Sales expectations that fail are always discouraging even to bass boat companies that make good boats and have high hopes for great profits. Discontinuing products that will not sell is always the final solution, always ordered from the top down in the Corp. food chain, you know that. Let’s refocus back to the up-side, I thoroughly agree with you, BCB are top of the line bass boats and the stock/standard aerated livewells are as good as any other brand of $60K bass boats off the showroom floor. The TT O2 rigs livewell technology was definitely not popular with bass fishermen and simply failed to sell because their target market which is tournament bass fishermen rejected the technology, refused to buy it although BCB did their premarket research prior to 2017 and clearly defined their target market and sales goals. I can imagine the Corp. shock discovering that the target market was not interested… demonstrating that tournament bass are certainly not worth “that much fish care” and will not spend a dime for the new O2 TT technology for any reason. Tournaments bass fishermen really do have limits when it comes to how much bass care they are willing to provide on their boat all day in summer tournaments and that limit is crystal clear. The absolute proof that the TT O2 rig was a new boat add-on failure was revealed in the 2017 BCB TT sales record. There have been several great products that entered the marketplace with great expectations, hopes and solid scientific justification and failed to sell. The stuff ends up in the dumpster or museum (Ford Edsel) … the company moves on, mistakes happen, no big deal. By the way, I am looking into a new hobby… chess. Have you ever played the game?After listening to you, I’m convinced you have got to be a salesman, a bass boat salesman. Right? Just wondering. The world needs salesmen too. If you are a boat salesman, do you have any idea how BCB or TPWD might effectively market their livewell O2 rigs? They definitely will need some help this year. Who knows, there is a wild chance that some bass fisherman just might buy it if there was a slicker, a more convincing marketing/sales plan than the 2017 marketing failure. Clearly “let’s save the bass, reduce summer tournament fish kills, provide the best tournament bass care possible, think bass conservation” jingles effectively used since the 1970’s will not generate TT O2 rig sales with the modern day tournament bass fisherman. It’s going to take a lot more than that old slogan to get into their pocketbooks for a few hundred dollars for the best bass care in the boat livewell all day. Fast boats, metal-flake paint and glitter and bright jerseys clearly trump bass care these days. The concept and practice of bubbling supplemental O2 into haul tank water for transporting live fish is not experimental or new. Using compressed O2 for live fish hauls is common, SOP, solidly steeped in real fishery science for decades worldwide. Expert biologist employed by all fish hatcheries oxygenate haul tanks with pure O2 every day when transporting live fish. The Toyota Lunker Bass Program in Athens, TX, TP&WD uses compressed O2 exclusively for all Lunker bass transports, live release boats (summer bass tournaments) also use compressed O2. *IT IS A FACT THAT ALL OF THESE PROFESSIONAL FISH AGENIES NEVER USE NOR DEPEND ON MECHANICAL AERATION TO INSURE SAFE OXYGENATION WHEN HAULING LIVE BASS (FISH) FOR SOLID SCIENTIFIC REASONS… MECHANICAL AERATION IS NOT ALWAYS DEPENDABLE FOR OXYGENATION. OF COURST THEY NEVER HAVE PROBLEMS WITH SUMMER FISH KILLS/DELAYED MORTALITY POST TRANSPORT. I like the color of BCB O2 tanks and the concept and I would really like to hear from BCB owners here, How about some positive opinions and suggestions how BCB might do a better job marketing the TT O2 rig in 2018. But, if you must be negative, please make it short.Thanks
The market has not embraced the Oxygen assembly and the volumes are insignificant. The technology or apparatus is the same most all wildlife agencies use, and even the same branded dispersion stones. The operational function is well documented from those agencies and independent stocking, or fish haulers. We do have other challenges with the system that only recently (15 days ago) became knowledge. Though we are moving forwards on the sales and use.If the system is not one anyone wants to buy, then thats fine. We had a mission with the system and it was not only about installation in bass boats. That intent also has waned over time. BCB
has no one used hydrogen peroxide? that stuff has been around making bubbles since 1818 or so
No, Agg271 has nothing to do with my point of view and you are putting words in my mouth. The part about arguing with my wife was not a complement. I have refrained throughout this thread to be civil and not cross boundaries that will be frowned upon. Again this is a preverbal pissin match that I am far too busy and feel it is unnecessary to get involved in. I regret I posted my opinion and I started this with you. The white flag waving was my way of saying something much less aggressive than this Arkansas Redneck woulda said to you in a parking lot when someone talks down to me. I get your point, your opinion just doesnt really make that much difference to me. You have a history on this board that i had not realized when I answered you or i would not have. I will say this, fishing is man stuff. I am an outdoorsman, conservationist and an all around good dude. I catch and release bass. i catch crappie, cut the sides off and I eat them. I kill ducks and deer, eat them too. I appreciate and consider the group on this page my friends. I am privileged to run a Basscat/Mercury and have enjoyed the relationships I have made doing so. It is very easy to sit on the side lines and ridicule something you know little about, manufacturing and running a business. I promise i have met both of those credentials in my adult life. Although, I have little knowledge of it what takes to build a bass boat or an O2 system. One thing i am positive of is that i deal with an honest company operated by good christian people who deserve to earn a good living and provide for the families that depend on them. I am certain it has always been the most important goal in the Pierce familys life. This is my last post in this thread you need not respond directly to me, because i will not post again.
I am really intrigued by all of this. I think a really good idea would be to T in some nitrous to make the fish really happy in the livewell while they are there. Then when I weigh in my usual 0 then I will have dropped some coin for a good cause.
Some lights and little WSP the fish will be happy then.
Jay wrote:Some lights and little WSP the fish will be happy then.AGG Im just curious as to what you do for a living Jay These would be some happy fishes
clownshoes wrote:I am really intrigued by all of this. I think a really good idea would be to T in some nitrous to make the fish really happy in the livewell while they are there. Then when I weigh in my usual 0 then I will have dropped some coin for a good cause.bushleague opinion
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