Roller issues

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November 1, 2018 at 8:53 am #465013

mrbraq
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First of all, I want to thank Sherm’s Marine and BCB for fixing my original issue under warranty. Great customer service from both parties.

The worse of the 2 photos was the original damage that was repaired under warranty. I’m now convinced my roller is causing the problem.

Notice the wear in the roller and the new damage to my fiberglass, post repair.

BCB, should I look into a new/different roller?

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November 1, 2018 at 4:24 pm #465014

Bass Cat Boats
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That appears to be the right roller as we don’t use the solid Stoltz for that reason. It seems there is either loose connection and vibration on the roller, or a tight connection. Do you run your strap tightly under the black roller when towing? This pulls the bow down as intended.

November 1, 2018 at 6:18 pm #465015

mrbraq
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I do. Should I buy the same brand replacement then? And how would I determine if the roller is too tight or too loose?

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November 1, 2018 at 7:06 pm #465016

bwp777
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Too tight?
Too loose?
I have had 3 boats, 3 different makers (1 being an 09 puma) and I have never had this issue or been told that the strap was too tight or loose. I have had rollers that looked far worse than this by the way.
I see it as operator error (loading the boat too forcefully) or a thin gel/fiberglass area, which on a point or crease, is very likely that it could be a combo of both as it is a very vulnerable area.

November 1, 2018 at 7:12 pm #465017

mrbraq
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With all due respect, I dont want this thread to turn into how I’m loading my boat. I just want a recommendation on what to do about the roller.

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November 1, 2018 at 8:15 pm #465018

Redngoo
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mrbraq wrote: With all due respect, I dont want this thread to turn into how I’m loading my boat. I just want a recommendation on what to do about the roller.

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I would buy the bow roller bcb sells and then if it fails you can eliminate the roller as the issue. I rotate my bow roller peroidically because of wear on the roller. When i rotate 360 degrees. I buy a new one from bcb. As bcb stated if thats a stolz they seem to be a harder compound

November 2, 2018 at 1:04 am #465019

bwp777
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I mean no disrespect sir

I merely stated the obvious or what seemed to be obvious. It isn’t my boat so I really shouldn’t care, but you are on a public forum and you never stated the parameters of the type of answer you wanted.

Redngoo addressed it best

November 2, 2018 at 7:11 am #465020

Cajunhunter67
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I install my roller slightly loose. I lube the bolt with grease. I tighten the nut enough to make sure the outside bumpers do their job.
When I load properly, it turns. No wear. The only time it will stop turning if I load to hard and put a bend in the bolt.
Make sure and pull the bow down tight after loading!

November 2, 2018 at 8:06 am #465021

jbassertn
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the day i bought my boat used and towed it home i noticed the roller issue and bought a new one and i turn it ever year a couple times to keep an eye on it. I have a spare ready to go when needed we all bump the roller hard every now and then due to different ramps and backing in to much or not enough i didn’t see any damage in your new pic and when i strap it i make sure the bow cant bounce up, you will see it bounce and feel it if its not tight enough. I make it tight and go one more click on the winch. I have seen some run with a towel to keep the scuff marks off i just keep it waxed good luck mrbrag

November 2, 2018 at 8:28 am #465022

mrbraq
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Redngoo wrote:
I would buy the bow roller bcb sells and then if it fails you can eliminate the roller as the issue. I rotate my bow roller peroidically because of wear on the roller. When i rotate 360 degrees. I buy a new one from bcb. As bcb stated if thats a stolz they seem to be a harder compound

Didnt realize this much roller wear should be expected. I’ll buy a new one and likely start using a towel/tshirt for long trips.

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November 2, 2018 at 12:27 pm #465023

Bass Cat Boats
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mrbraq wrote: I do. Should I buy the same brand replacement then? And how would I determine if the roller is too tight or too loose?

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mrbraq, the tightness is in relationship to the strap and clip, not the roller itself. Also the strap goes under the second roller and pulls down on the bow, not through between the rollers. That pulls the bow down tightly to the roller and keeps it pinned more tightly in the event of a front end accident.

November 2, 2018 at 5:14 pm #465024

Redngoo
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This one is for bcb! By the term “bow roller” i would think that roller is suppose to free spin just sitting there with no boat touching it. Ive owned a bcb for many yrs and neither of my cats have just “free spin”. Seems i have to rotate them ever so often. Im guessing by design in a perfect launch and reload pne would actually only “bump” the stop not “roll” up on the stop. We kno our lauches are not perfect though. Mine has never free spun and i have never had damage like the poster displayed but have see it before. So bcb is the roller suppose to “free spin”.?? Im talking about without the boat tightened down against the roller obivously.

November 4, 2018 at 6:57 pm #465025

Redngoo
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November 5, 2018 at 12:16 am #465026

Bass Cat Boats
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Overthinking the term roller is the situation, they are a bump stop. They don’t roll intentionally as the gap in between rollers is required and exposing the metal arms, this would increase damage to the bow area when the boat could contact the metal arms. The situation existed on older boats, where the end caps were not notch cut in house as they are today.

The bow strap should be tightened extremely taught to prevent vibration and the strap should go under the second roller.

November 5, 2018 at 1:06 am #465027

Redngoo
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Bcb your reponse is appreciated. I new what bcb response would be.i was just wanting to clarify some that the “roller” was not intended to roll. Though in a perfect scenario it would serve as a bump as intended. This is my reason for stating. I loosen my bow stop from time to time as the bow roller wears to get a little more use from my bow roller in my first post
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