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Just wondering if anyone was running a yamaha 250 sho four stroke on a puma ftd.Im looking at buying this boat but i priced it with a merc 250 pro xs.Any feedback on this would be great.
You wont hear from anyone who has a sho say you shouldnt get it.
big64 wrote:Just wondering if anyone was running a yamaha 250 sho four stroke on a puma ftd.Im looking at buying this boat but i priced it with a merc 250 pro xs.Any feedback on this would be great.did you price it at the B-Ham show today?
no i priced it at springfield mo show i just seen that picture of the eyra with a 250 sho it looks great
I saw a guy price one at B-Ham today thought it may have been you.
I have a 2010 Puma FTD a 250 SHO…. Has it since october now has bout 50 hrs on it and has been flawless. I have had all 3 of the popluar motors in recent years. a Pro XS and a Etec HO. The SHO to me is the best of the three and really its not even close. The Pro XS in 2nd. You get great fuel mileage with the SHO. It has holeshot thats off the chart and will run all the way thru to top end. By far the fastest 0-60 motor I have ever driven. Mine has a 25p Yamaha ventless t-1 prop I wish id have put a 26p on it but its doing good with the 25p for now. Me alone loaded it runs 77 all day and in excellent conditions maybe 78. with 2ppl full of gas and all our tackle it still runs 75-76 at 5,900-6,000 rpm. I been tweaking the jackplate it was too high i lowered it bout 3/8 in now its just a touch low but I plan to get a 26p fury and try so im gonna leave it be for now. I like my motor a lil bit lower it gives the boat a better feel to me and performs better in all areas. I get 4.2-4.4 mpg crusing around at 50-55mph and mearly 4.0 at WOT running mid to high 70s. I think the 26p fury will give it another 1.5-2mph on top once I get one. The fastest i ever got it was right after I got the boat and it was light on tackle and between 1/2 and 3/4 tank on gas. It ran 80-80.5 with a very light load and the motor was too high. This is my somewhat educated opinion buy a SHO no oil and with ethanol in all the gas now a 4 stroke burns it much better than a 2 stroke. I promise i dont miss the $30 per gallon or more oil one bit. If i ordered a new boat tomorrow id get it with a SHO on the back. If you decide to stick with a 2 stroke id get a Pro XS. Here is my rig ….
DerekDont get too caried away drinking the koolaide. Burns ethanol gas much better than a 2 stroke? Curious how you came up with that assumption since the Mercury Optimax Pro XS and the Evinrude ETEC HO are 3 star rated as far as emissions. Let me know if you want to compare top end performance between them! LOL!
I knew id get you stirred up PA… Bring me a 26p fury meet ya at Ouachita ill run ya from Mountain Harbor to housley point !!!! I mean a 4 stroke will run off a higher ethanol level gasoline 10- 15% with less problems that a 2 stroke. All i need is a even playing field on props and ill run ya all day long…. I have saved enough on oil in 4 months to buy 3-4 tanks of gas !!!!!!! And i checked the oil in my SHO friday PA it hasnt made a ounce in 50 hours but if it does ill drain it out and mail it down to Texas for you…..
I don have the Puma but do have a 200 SHO. I am comparing it to the previous HPDI I had. This motor is quieter, burns less fuel, and no oil. It has been faster by 2-3 MPH over my prior 200 HPDI on a P2. You have to decide for yourself but you will be hard pressed to find too many owners that are not satisfied. The Merc Pro XS is a nice proven outboard just different technology than the SHO. Cant go wrong either way.
The following comments are from my experiences with the VmaxSHO fourstroke. Here are my findings to date vs my previous two stroke motor ownerships. At WOT performance the VmaxSHO is the same or better , has noticeably better hole shot with stock props and per my digital gauges gets slightly better gas mileage in the 4500-5000 RPM range (4.3 to 4.6 mpg). Disclaimer: All above performance attributes could be different per your personal driving ability and boat setup. After the initial break in period I have not paid one penny to add oil to my boat. Compute that out over 100 hours or a full season of fishing and the potential cost savings could be in the $500-$700 price range. Also, on the conservation side four stroke oil is self contained and no worries of it bleeding into our valued fresh waters like my two strokes in the past. I think thats why four strokes are openly accepted by EPA vs two strokes regardless of three star ratings. Additionally, here is something to consider. If you are making a $30,000 to $50,000 purchase what will be the motor technology standard 5, 6 or 10 years from now after your loan expires? I think the next two maybe three years that window should be okay but many take out loans extending 6 to 10 years. If you decide to sell or trade in you will have to decide if that will be an added challenge.As for yearly engine maintenance Ill find out after 100 hours but my dealer who I trust and is very honest says its minimal. I will share that number when I cross that bridge. I have no fears or worries for yearly motor maintenance.For me the SHO offers you an early window into the future today. As for performance and durability running over 60 hours so far my experience with the SHO has done nothing but impress. Like Bama96 said my SHO is getting better gas mileage then my last two stroke and is 1 1/2 and 3 mph faster at WOT (all things being equal boat setup) to my previous two stroke ownerships. Add the fact that I have motor warranty protection for up to 5 to 6 years no worries there too. You cant go wrong with any motor choice and you will have to decide if any of these comments are relevant to you. Good luck in your evaluations. If you are seriously considering the VmaxSHO keep asking questions, read and evaluate the overall acceptance from real SHO users for your evaluation. For SHO you will find the right fit for you. As for the comment on Koolaide I sure like the taste I am drinking right now and couldnt be happier with my choice.Last edited by Flyswatter on January 23rd, 2011, 4:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Same old same old. Rah rah rah.Get what you can get worked on.Get something you can afford to get worked on.I own the least reliable of all 3 but have the greatest BRP shop in the world so its easy.C.O.D. Jr. III
ward wrote:Same old same old. Rah rah rah.Get what you can get worked on.Get something you can afford to get worked on.I own the least reliable of all 3 but have the greatest BRP shop in the world so its easy.X2 Buy the brand your local shop you trust sells. They are all good these days. Its splitting hairs really.
Hey Bama after 2 blocks I didnt say mine was good all the time! JP has sponsors, PA has sponsors, my boat is from prostaffer who is sponsored.This guy got a deal that one did- it goes on and on and its all biased tremendously by money and our own needs and wants.There are reasons to own any of them including Suzuki as well.In the end the RETAIL customers decide how it all turns out. How much did it cost them? How often was it down? How easy was it to get fixed over a period both within AND out of warranty?Yamaha has more money than anyone and hands on all boat lines. Mercury has more motors on the bass boat market than anyone and repair shops here in the states.Me and BRP? Well were just trying to help ol Canada there JP!Time will tell.Buy what you can get fixed.C.O.D. Jr. III
One more thing-the other interesting thing about BCB is lack of motor allegiance.Easy way to follow the market? See what leaves that plant.While there the motor market is a tangled web you can see what folks are happy with by what sells retail at BCB-Ive seen 1 BRP in months.Majority Merc.SHO doing almost as well.Theres your customer feedback.C.O.D. Jr. III
Thanks Ward… lolI actually worked in a Marina for a couple of years tearing down and rigging bass boats and one thing through all those years that stood out in my head from running everyones boats was what ran well and what didnt. My kidneys have taken beatings in just about every bad riding boat out there and when rigging you really get to see what build quality is like when you put your hands into areas you cant see from on top… Bass Cat has always been the best built boat for as long as I can remember.Regarding the motors… youre 100% on the money… I have a Yamaha dealer 15 minutes from my place and I refuse to go to them because they suck… instead I drive an hour and twenty to bring it to another one… these guys work on Merc, Yamaha, Evinrude and Honda and they are the best… They keep everyone happy from all motor families and thats what everyone needs… especially us bass heads who have two speeds in every condition… idle or full throttle!Switching to Yamaha was not an easy decision for me at all since I ran Merc for a long time… I had the first 115 Opti when they came out in Canada (great motor but sluggish out of the hole), a 200 Pro XS 2.5 liter with the Alien Cowl, a 3.0 liter Merc 200, 200 Opti in 2005 and 2 of the 225 pro XSs. I was happy with all but got tired of ordering Premium Plus by the drum since on most years I would run 200 to 250 hours. That and the fact that I got into Dave Mercers boat with the first SHO in Canada, it was never a case of not liking a motor… it was more like going out on a limb and being pleasantly surprised. BRP was very big up here for a while but with the blow ups happening very frequently they have fallen from grace since the days of the first HOs and 7 year warranties. I think they are still in a close race with Yamaha for numbers in the Bass market but Merc owns it. In smaller boats like Aluminum and other pleasure boats its very tight between Yamaha and Merc.JP
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