Thanks for the help OT. Still couldnt get shifter off because my socket kept wanting to round the edges of the brass nut. Learned I needed a socket with different splines than I have. Got scared and quit. Finally got a cable ran from the back to the console and pulled 2 ropes through. I tied one to one of the cables that was stuck thinking I could pull it forward and free it up. I was wrong. I was able to pull it far enough where I could feel the knot with my finger tip. We tried pulling back and forth with no luck. It seems the cable is now in a U shape behind the shifter. After 2 or 3 hours fighting this got mad and quit. Then when putting the round plastic cover that goes over the brass nut on the shifter broke the tip off. I guess the money from selling the old graph can go straight to a boat mechanic. Good way to start a Monday.
