Bass Cat Boats wrote:The dealers in some markets have made decisions with upgrading to 4″ frames. We feel that is both market and representative related. Most are sold with the 3″ frame and we have not had an issue with those frames to date.As for the hook, it is in all product and they have not yet ran the stripe full across without it, nor do they offer it that way.
BCB
So if a customer does not want something as hokey as the hook on the side of the hull nothing can be done to have that not appear? A piece of tape across the trim stripe in that area would resolve that. Usually when a manufacturer builds something it is due to customer demand. Was there a demand from potential owners to put a hook on the side of the hull? That one thing is a deal breaker for me (and it seems to be for others too) for a Bass Cat. I need a narrower boat to fit in my garage which is the ONLY reason I am looking at the Pantera Classic. So let me ask you this…
People are not buying this boat because of the hook. How many will not buy the boat if the hook isn’t there? Think about that one….
Bass Cat Boats wrote:
The dealers in some markets have made decisions with upgrading to 4″ frames. We feel that is both market and representative related. Most are sold with the 3″ frame and we have not had an issue with those frames to date.
As for the hook, it is in all product and they have not yet ran the stripe full across without it, nor do they offer it that way.
BCB
So if a customer does not want something as hokey as the hook on the side of the hull nothing can be done to have that not appear? A piece of tape across the trim stripe in that area would resolve that. Usually when a manufacturer builds something it is due to customer demand. Was there a demand from potential owners to put a hook on the side of the hull? That one thing is a deal breaker for me (and it seems to be for others too) for a Bass Cat. I need a narrower boat to fit in my garage which is the ONLY reason I am looking at the Pantera Classic. So let me ask you this…
People are not buying this boat because of the hook. How many will not buy the boat if the hook isn’t there? Think about that one….
Bass Cat Boats wrote:There are those who don’t mind the hook in the middle opinion section. Those that don’t like the hook are emphatic we find, and those who admire it are less enthusiastic. If any of us don’t admire (insert like here) something, we tend to be more vocal than those who admire (insert like again) something.The hook has reached a definite contingency that has opposition to it. It is hard to do, it was very hard to model (tool) in the plug and it is extremely difficult to color and tape.
This leads us to a crossroad.
Here is how I see it. If the hook is so cool then put it on every model! I am not interested in the Pantera Classic because of the price point. My boat (if ordered) will cost as much if not more than the other larger boats. I want the Pantera Classic because it will fit through the garage door without having to worry about just having 1″ or room to play with in getting it in the garage. The garage door on my 3-car that this would go in is a 8′ door…the Pantera Classic for being a 19’+ boat fits that opening perfectly. Can’t store it outside because I can’t, and would not do that anyway. Don’t want a smaller boat.
I like things to look clean. The hook is a deal breaker for me on this boat because to me it looks dorky…that is my taste and you do not have to agree with it but it seems that I am not the only one. Maybe someone thought it would look cute…and again…if it was on every other model Cat then so be it…but it is on the boat that I would like to order/buy but if this is going to be on the boat and to stick out like it does then this is not going to be the boat I get.
Bass Cat Boats wrote: There are those who don’t mind the hook in the middle opinion section. Those that don’t like the hook are emphatic we find, and those who admire it are less enthusiastic. If any of us don’t admire (insert like here) something, we tend to be more vocal than those who admire (insert like again) something.The hook has reached a definite contingency that has opposition to it. It is hard to do, it was very hard to model (tool) in the plug and it is extremely difficult to color and tape.
This leads us to a crossroad.
Here is how I see it. If the hook is so cool then put it on every model! I am not interested in the Pantera Classic because of the price point. My boat (if ordered) will cost as much if not more than the other larger boats. I want the Pantera Classic because it will fit through the garage door without having to worry about just having 1″ or room to play with in getting it in the garage. The garage door on my 3-car that this would go in is a 8′ door…the Pantera Classic for being a 19’+ boat fits that opening perfectly. Can’t store it outside because I can’t, and would not do that anyway. Don’t want a smaller boat.
I like things to look clean. The hook is a deal breaker for me on this boat because to me it looks dorky…that is my taste and you do not have to agree with it but it seems that I am not the only one. Maybe someone thought it would look cute…and again…if it was on every other model Cat then so be it…but it is on the boat that I would like to order/buy but if this is going to be on the boat and to stick out like it does then this is not going to be the boat I get.
oldtimer57 wrote:Wow. A small graphic will cause you to buy an inferior brand? I have NEVER liked 100% of anything I bought, unless it was something that could be highly customized when ordering. And even then there were always minor things I would have changed if I could.Sorry, but this does NOT sound like a serious complaint. Quite a few have complained about asymmetry in the BCB hulls (the offset on the nose, for example, to perfectly center the T.M. with the keel. They STILL buy the boat because of the quality, and learn that that asymmetric nose has a noticeable handling advantage when the T.M. is down. I don’t like that “M” logo on top of the mercury pro XS cowl. Dirt/bug/etc catcher. Would not be something that would make me switch to another brand, however.
It’s not your money, your taste, etc. I asked if that one aspect could be masked off so that it did not show on the boat that I want. As far as the Mercury logo you can remove that if you like…you have that option. I have owned Bass Cat’s in the past so I know the quality of the boat. If I am going to spend over $50K I do not want to see that hook on the side of my boat. I am not alone in this so this is just not my own choice/taste. The hook graphic serves nothing to make the boat better in anyway. It comes down to individual taste…so the bigger question is if there are people who will not buy this boat because of that hook then why have it? Like I asked already…is someone NOT going to buy the boat because it does not have a hook graphic in the top cap?
oldtimer57 wrote:
Wow. A small graphic will cause you to buy an inferior brand? I have NEVER liked 100% of anything I bought, unless it was something that could be highly customized when ordering. And even then there were always minor things I would have changed if I could.
Sorry, but this does NOT sound like a serious complaint. Quite a few have complained about asymmetry in the BCB hulls (the offset on the nose, for example, to perfectly center the T.M. with the keel. They STILL buy the boat because of the quality, and learn that that asymmetric nose has a noticeable handling advantage when the T.M. is down. I don’t like that “M” logo on top of the mercury pro XS cowl. Dirt/bug/etc catcher. Would not be something that would make me switch to another brand, however.
It’s not your money, your taste, etc. I asked if that one aspect could be masked off so that it did not show on the boat that I want. As far as the Mercury logo you can remove that if you like…you have that option. I have owned Bass Cat’s in the past so I know the quality of the boat. If I am going to spend over $50K I do not want to see that hook on the side of my boat. I am not alone in this so this is just not my own choice/taste. The hook graphic serves nothing to make the boat better in anyway. It comes down to individual taste…so the bigger question is if there are people who will not buy this boat because of that hook then why have it? Like I asked already…is someone NOT going to buy the boat because it does not have a hook graphic in the top cap?
Fish all types of water…rivers like the Mississippi as well as lakes. Long runs are needed sometimes to get where I need to go, and though time is not always a factor when I want to fish a spot getting there sooner than later is always better. I know we are only talking about a few extra minutes between the two boats but they are also priced almost the same so that is why I asked. I am also a little bit of a speed freak having owned an Allison, Stroker, and Gamblers in the past and as much as speed can get you in to trouble it equally gets you out of trouble as well.
As for the boat width a few inches to me is not a factor. Would be going with the removable passenger console in either case so there should be plenty of room.
I am asking because I am pulling the trigger on a new boat, and the dealer has down a 24 Fury for an Eyra with the 250 Pro XS 4S. I read an article by Rick about testing an Eyra with a 250 SHO and the pitch props that were used on that boat where in the 27 pitch range with even a 29 Tempest being run with good results. My old Jaguar with a 225 Opti is spinning a 25 Fury with the current owner of that boat now with no problems.
I have had props pitched as high as 30 (Bravo) on a Stroker I once owned that had a 250 Pro XS…so in my head the 24 seems to be a little small for a performance oriented hull like the Eyra with 250hp on the transom. Is the lower pitch because of the 4S engine? What would be the top end on this boat with the 24?
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<div class=”blockquote-content”>If you haven’t ordered it yet, most likely it will be a 2020 model. The Factory has been so busy the last three (3) years lead times have been nuts. Once building expansions are completed (60 days) we will see lead times reduce slightly and that most likely will be temporary at this pace. New models coming soon in the 219 TFX and Jaguar will increase orders as will other models to come after those.
The engine companies now can have lead times as long as 12 months and we have moved our Mercury forecasting on orders out to 16-18 months ahead.
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So any estimate on how many months out if ordered today? When do the 20’s become available? Is it possible to schedule an approx. build date so it can be expected at a certain time…say like February of 2020? If it is going to be sometime out that is fine as I will hold onto what I have for the year…just trying to get a feel as if I should sell now or ?
Response to Bass Cat
Just want to make you aware of a few things, and will address your response by the same numbering you used.
At NO TIME have I ever even insinuated/suggested/asked that the factory build me a boat and I buy direct. I have no idea where that came from or why you would mention that as it suggests that I tried to do something like this. The closest dealer to me is 5 hours away but he does not have the motor I want so I know as soon as I buy a Bass Cat I that I will on my own as far as taking care of issues. I have no problem swapping out pumps, etc. on my own as there is very little on your boats that I could not take repair myself. So short of a major issue I would be servicing the boat myswlf regardless of whom I bought it from.
This thing fell apart literally 2 days before the boat was to be ordered. The boat was put together with a deposit in hand in September of 2019. I have been trying to order a boat since August of 2018. So I am going to suggest something.
Based upon all of the circumstances is there any reason why this boat could still not be allowed to be placed by the dealer the deal was set up with? I know they are no longer a dealer…but this was by 2 days before the order was to be placed. He has told me he would do anything he could to help because of the fact that this was setup almost 5 months ago. As a customer who has been waiting since 2018 to get a boat ordered I think this is a special circumstance in which for this one time something is done to make this work.
I would be more than happy to send you the dated order sheet to confirm everything. So message me if there is some way to make this happen just this one time. This should be about trying to make something work for a customer who has been trying to order a Bass Cat for a long time.
Then you folks need to update what does and does not come with the boats. It was listed as an option for the Pantera Classic, the dealer was not aware it was not an option until he talked to the rep…so no one outside of Bass Cat knew. Does the Pantera Classic have a recirculating live well with a timer? The model info page states “Aeration & Pump In/Out Feature”.
Thanks. I knew there had to be some period of time before that could be done.
Riverside Marine, Tn. Was told maybe about 3 weeks or so ago that the motor for my boat was not available yet. Unable to contact the dealer as no one has answered the phone or email which as I said is understandable because they could be closed with what is going on. Just trying to get a timeline so I can roughly plan when to make the drive to pick the boat up.
schodackbassman:
If dealer has website, check there for updates. If not, email them. Someone probably monitoring email off site if closed. That’s how I reached mine.
They have a web site. I have called, and emailed with no response. It is not that big of a deal as I was just curious where the boat was probably at. Everything by me is shutdown anyway…all ramps are closed (why I have no freakin’ idea) so it is not like I am missing out on being able to do anything. I knew before all of the virus stuff started that the engines were on back order. Would be cool to see a picture of the boat as it has been on order for a long time with a delivery time for the 1st week in April. I keep looking at the serial number facebook page and nothing as of yet.
This sucks in the biggest way for me. My boat has been sitting at the factory waiting for a 200 HO since all this Covid stuff started, and now there is no more Evinrude and I have to make a choice on a different motor. I know BassCat is pro black motor, but I need to know the performance differences or what to expect between a Merc and a Yamaha as far as hole shot and top end? What pitch prop would the Merc 200 XS spin versus a Yamaha 200 SHO? The boat in question is a Pantera Classic.
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