thanks for the great reply. I can do some stuff but Im not going to tear into those carbs. Is there a way that they can hook it up and see whats going on. I seen a big plug on the side of the motor with a cap on it. When I replaced the primer I replaced the fuel line and all and it stays hard. Is there a low idle stater on this motor. I read of a guy having a bad one and his motor was doing the same thing. If I take it to the shop i dont want to be going back and forth as they eliminate problems.